Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:21:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dean Anderson
To: Theodore Ts'o
Subject: Re: Proper behaviour towards irritating persons (RE: I'm not going
to listen...)
Alan Brown of ORBS was sued for defmation 3 separate times, and lost all
three lawsuits. Brown listed ISPs he didn't like in his "open relay"
blacklist. The judge in one case indicated that Brown did this for
financial gain. ORBS was shutdown on a contempt of court order after
Brown posted his blacklist contents rather than remove the false entries.
Brown shut/sold his ISP, manawatu.nz.co, to pay for damages. After this,
blacklists began to adopt "suit-proof" operation, led by someone who has
no assets with which to pay damages (message by Ron Guillmette on spaml).
I have some of this information at www.iadl.org. You can also find a lot
by googling for ORBS and Alan Brown. There is a great deal of information
available.
--Dean
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 01:40:35AM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
> > These are generally good rules. Too bad you don't follow them.
> >
> > Crocker, Royer, and Alvestrand et al should try to apply rule 1 to
> > themselves. The fact that they engage in personal attacks (including
> > further attacks of "having to put up with Mr. Anderson", "Proper behavior
> > towards irritating persons [Anderson and Staff]") demonstrates that they
> > have no rational arguments to make. It is an axiom that personal attacks
> > are the last resort of the wrong and weak-minded. I'll leave it up to
> > others to categorize those making the personal attacks. They are very
> > vague about my "egregious irrational bad behavior", yet I am very specific
> > about theirs.
>
> OK, let's see the specifics about your claim of "well-known,
> court-proven liars" and "court-proven liars".
>
> - Ted
>
>
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